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		<title>Comment on Curating the Deck Chairs on the Titanic by Content &#38; Curation: An Epic Poem : Incisive.nu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Content &#38; Curation: An Epic Poem : Incisive.nu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part 1: Curating the Deck Chairs on the Titanic [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Curate and the Curator by Tweets that mention The Curate and the Curator : Incisive.nu -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jeffrey Zeldman, Angela Shetler, Ethan, Andy Cole, Tom Henrich and others. Tom Henrich said: RT @kissane: The Curate and the Curator (post 3 of 5 in curation series) is now up on Incisive.nu: http://bit.ly/a3NzW5 #contentstrategy [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Content &amp; Curation: An Epic Poem by Four free podcasts: Curation Best Practices &#171; Brain Traffic Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Four free podcasts: Curation Best Practices &#171; Brain Traffic Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hey, if you&#039;re interested in content curation, you really need to be following Erin Kissane&#039;s five-part series on content curation. I&#039;m fairly sure there will be no need to ever write anything about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hey, if you&#039;re interested in content curation, you really need to be following Erin Kissane&#039;s five-part series on content curation. I&#039;m fairly sure there will be no need to ever write anything about [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between the Click and the Curator by Erin</title>
		<link>http://incisive.nu/2010/between-the-click-and-the-curator/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@newcurator: Oh, on the whole, I&#039;m with you. I&#039;m trying to be very clear about the fact that &quot;real-time content curation&quot; isn&#039;t remotely the same thing as what I keep wanting to call &quot;actual curation.&quot;

I do think that if web people are going to use the term at all, we should attend to its roots and try to learn from the people who do serious curation. And thus my attempt at bridge-making. We should probably call it &quot;high-speed bricolage&quot; or something, but that&#039;s French, so it&#039;ll never catch on in the US.

&lt;em&gt;More and more content curators simply means adding to that very same superabundance.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s the root of my trouble with most of the marketing world&#039;s approach to content. It&#039;s antisocial and, incidentally, a very short-sighted business strategy.

Anyhow, my next couple of posts will deal with a different kind of content work that is, I think, much more closely allied to curation.

@Taariq: I don&#039;t think any marketing or &quot;content curation&quot; work will ever come close to matching the kind of work performed by curators in museums and galleries. Which is fine -- they&#039;re quite different things. But I also think it&#039;s irresponsible not to try to learn from those disciplines. 

To put it a little differently, I think it&#039;s our professional responsibility to be both civil to and curious about the people whose terminology we&#039;ve co-opted.

(I should now admit that I still think Economics is essentially witchcraft, despite my humanities background. Though I mean that in the nicest possible way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@newcurator: Oh, on the whole, I&#8217;m with you. I&#8217;m trying to be very clear about the fact that &#8220;real-time content curation&#8221; isn&#8217;t remotely the same thing as what I keep wanting to call &#8220;actual curation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do think that if web people are going to use the term at all, we should attend to its roots and try to learn from the people who do serious curation. And thus my attempt at bridge-making. We should probably call it &#8220;high-speed bricolage&#8221; or something, but that&#8217;s French, so it&#8217;ll never catch on in the US.</p>
<p><em>More and more content curators simply means adding to that very same superabundance.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the root of my trouble with most of the marketing world&#8217;s approach to content. It&#8217;s antisocial and, incidentally, a very short-sighted business strategy.</p>
<p>Anyhow, my next couple of posts will deal with a different kind of content work that is, I think, much more closely allied to curation.</p>
<p>@Taariq: I don&#8217;t think any marketing or &#8220;content curation&#8221; work will ever come close to matching the kind of work performed by curators in museums and galleries. Which is fine &#8212; they&#8217;re quite different things. But I also think it&#8217;s irresponsible not to try to learn from those disciplines. </p>
<p>To put it a little differently, I think it&#8217;s our professional responsibility to be both civil to and curious about the people whose terminology we&#8217;ve co-opted.</p>
<p>(I should now admit that I still think Economics is essentially witchcraft, despite my humanities background. Though I mean that in the nicest possible way.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curating the Deck Chairs on the Titanic by CC Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin, bravo! So excited you&#039;re tackling this timely topic. Looking forward to great discussions and hopefully some velvet paintings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, bravo! So excited you&#8217;re tackling this timely topic. Looking forward to great discussions and hopefully some velvet paintings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curating the Deck Chairs on the Titanic by Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kidredd and @Carl: I&#039;m so glad you&#039;re enjoying the posts!

@Elizabeth: Thank you so much for stopping by, and for commenting. (I owe you an email, too! The last few days have been a bit of a blur.) 

Even as I try to avoid the terminology debate, I find myself unable to avoid drawing my own lines -- you must be this tall to ride the Curation Express, that sort of thing. (As a semi-closeted academic, I do feel protective of extra-commercial intellectual activity.)

@Taariq: Are you asking if librarianship plays a role in content strategy? I think library science is quite thoroughly intertwingled with information architecture, and with the &#039;techier&#039; aspects of content strategy, certainly -- taxonomic processes, finding aids, all that sort of thing is directly derived from library work.

As far as the relationship between librarianship as a whole and content, I&#039;m afraid that&#039;s another whole article. (One I&#039;d be interested in reading, as I&#039;ve always been an amateur library nerd.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kidredd and @Carl: I&#8217;m so glad you&#8217;re enjoying the posts!</p>
<p>@Elizabeth: Thank you so much for stopping by, and for commenting. (I owe you an email, too! The last few days have been a bit of a blur.) </p>
<p>Even as I try to avoid the terminology debate, I find myself unable to avoid drawing my own lines &#8212; you must be this tall to ride the Curation Express, that sort of thing. (As a semi-closeted academic, I do feel protective of extra-commercial intellectual activity.)</p>
<p>@Taariq: Are you asking if librarianship plays a role in content strategy? I think library science is quite thoroughly intertwingled with information architecture, and with the &#8216;techier&#8217; aspects of content strategy, certainly &#8212; taxonomic processes, finding aids, all that sort of thing is directly derived from library work.</p>
<p>As far as the relationship between librarianship as a whole and content, I&#8217;m afraid that&#8217;s another whole article. (One I&#8217;d be interested in reading, as I&#8217;ve always been an amateur library nerd.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between the Click and the Curator by Taariq Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taariq Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very well-research post.  I agree that some curation as we see online and in marketing still fails to rise to the complete definition of curating in museum science.  However, as a student of social science, I can still here a high-pitched resistance to what is essentially an absorption of ideas across disciplines.  If we don&#039;t believe marketing as a discipline could evolve with ideas taken from a social science, then we sound no different than the neo-classical physicists who thought economics of the 18th century was no better than witchcraft and a sham science for using the term &quot;equilibrium&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very well-research post.  I agree that some curation as we see online and in marketing still fails to rise to the complete definition of curating in museum science.  However, as a student of social science, I can still here a high-pitched resistance to what is essentially an absorption of ideas across disciplines.  If we don&#8217;t believe marketing as a discipline could evolve with ideas taken from a social science, then we sound no different than the neo-classical physicists who thought economics of the 18th century was no better than witchcraft and a sham science for using the term &#8220;equilibrium&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between the Click and the Curator by Newcurator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newcurator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, Steven Lubar was speaking as a director,  where all kinds of important decisions are made, Kirsten said &quot;objects&quot; and Suzanne put it in terms of &quot;connections and predictions&quot;, which seems far more geared towards exhibitions. Rather traditional museum explanations that highlights the importance of particular artefacts. The &quot;selection process&quot; here is one of academic objective reasoning (&quot;This is possibly the earliest hand tool of this type in this area&quot;) rather than individualised preference along a theme (&quot;This cool link to an article about something I&#039;ve become well known for being interested in&quot;)

My issue that gained a lot of attention is that curatorship is a job with actual skills. Too many &quot;content-curators&quot;, as you put it, are lacking the notions of preservation/conservation for the sake of future generations, requiring great detail to providence and &quot;object biography&quot; (If one is a fan of Igor Kopytoff). Few content-curators have the hardline policy that museum curators have to direct their work on the collection. I suppose that&#039;s why you&#039;re making more sense to me than Scoble by taking about strategy.

The superabundance of information is overwhelming, so the truly great stuff has to be treasured. More and more content curators simply means adding to that very same superabundance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, Steven Lubar was speaking as a director,  where all kinds of important decisions are made, Kirsten said &#8220;objects&#8221; and Suzanne put it in terms of &#8220;connections and predictions&#8221;, which seems far more geared towards exhibitions. Rather traditional museum explanations that highlights the importance of particular artefacts. The &#8220;selection process&#8221; here is one of academic objective reasoning (&#8220;This is possibly the earliest hand tool of this type in this area&#8221;) rather than individualised preference along a theme (&#8220;This cool link to an article about something I&#8217;ve become well known for being interested in&#8221;)</p>
<p>My issue that gained a lot of attention is that curatorship is a job with actual skills. Too many &#8220;content-curators&#8221;, as you put it, are lacking the notions of preservation/conservation for the sake of future generations, requiring great detail to providence and &#8220;object biography&#8221; (If one is a fan of Igor Kopytoff). Few content-curators have the hardline policy that museum curators have to direct their work on the collection. I suppose that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re making more sense to me than Scoble by taking about strategy.</p>
<p>The superabundance of information is overwhelming, so the truly great stuff has to be treasured. More and more content curators simply means adding to that very same superabundance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between the Click and the Curator by Content Strategy links &#171; Meaning and Measure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Content Strategy links &#171; Meaning and Measure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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